The Weigh In Weeklies Group

by debbydebs on Oct 23, 2008 at 7:15 am

Thanks for the invite but I think I'm going to stick to eating as clean as possible, not having any "rules" that would make me get upset for eating the odd piece of chocolate (or even a whole bar!) as long as my cals are OK and my percentages as they should be...

I've tried rules in the past, and I rebel! Straight into the arms of the cookie-dough monster :D

by bdaustin on Oct 23, 2008 at 9:54 am

Sometimes the best way for adherence is to follow the diet in a round about way :) meaning... your egg white omlet and protein shakes sound like something from the ZONE but when you do it on your own theres a whole psychological difference because its your choice, no "rules" like you said. For me though I need a few rules and boundries for a few weeks becauses I am running amok loool. I need to get into a place where I am making the right food choices and no longer craving the massive amounts of junk that I have been living off of. Once im away from it for a while I usually am not AS tempted by it (lets face it... I will never be turned off by ice cream lol)
And like your saying about the percentages, thats one of the MAIN focuses of the ZONE.
I just read an Article from JAMA (journal of American Medical Assoc.) and it compared Weight watchers, Ornish diet, ZONE and atkins... the conclusion? with adherence they all work but the ZONE showed higher adherance rates than the others, as well as higher weight loss, and better health paramaters in terms of reducing risk for disease and improving overall quality of life.
Moral of the story though??? any diet pretty much (besides some of those OFF THE WALL diets out there), even your own diet WILL work if you stick to it and the weight loss alone increases your health drastically. So the key is consistancy and everyone is different! Best of Luck :)))

by Former Member on Oct 23, 2008 at 11:01 pm

I can understand why Ornish would have low adherence--who can love a very low fat vegetarian diet? As it happens I'm reading his book right now, and I have to say it all seems very sound and medically validated, so that's what I'm following "in a round about way" as you so aptly put it.

Which issue of JAMA?

by bdaustin on Oct 23, 2008 at 11:33 pm

2005; 293(1):43-53

The tables within the article if you happen to look at it are the most interesting part if you ask me. It shows you though that all of the diets produced a good effect and adherence was the biggest factor (as always right lol)

by Former Member on Oct 24, 2008 at 10:54 pm

Thanks BD. I live near the med school library and will stop by and have a look one of these days. Interesting...

by bdaustin on Oct 24, 2008 at 10:58 pm

I just found a much better diet though... the one where something happens and it makes you so upset you dont eat and cry yourself to sleep on afriday night. that one. ill tell you how it works out for me at our next weight in. :(

by Former Member on Oct 25, 2008 at 3:17 pm

I don't envy anyone an emotional upset, but I have always kind of envied people who lose weight when upset. Me, I have always gone the other way...
I hope you feel better Ms Austin. See you Wednesday. -- Mark