Hi, it's Jim Empey for LIVESTRONG.com. I'm here in Boise, Idaho, here at Quail Hollow Golf Club and the reason I'm here today is to talk a little bit about putting specifically where should our hands be at impact when we're gonna strike a putt solidly. And let me, let me make a couple of comments before I specifically talk about that. First thing to remember about putting is it's the simplest part of the game. Not that it's easy but we've got a very small swing with less moving parts than a full swing and therefore this is the easiest thing to do mechanically. Regardless of how we grip the club wherever our hands are. Whatever the lean of the shaft is at address we'd like to replicate that at impact. Therefore if we're a putter with a fair amount of forward press, by the way we better have a fair amount of loft on the club face if we're gonna do this. If we're a player with a fair amount of forward press at address we'd like to return to there at impact. Therefore the club is coming through impact in the same angle, same position that it was at, at address. Conversely if we're one of those players whose shaft is relatively vertical and we have a modest amount of loft on the putter we want to return the club to impact the same way. The grip you choose is largely irrelevant whether it's a cross handed grip, whether it's an improvised grip. Whatever you do make sure the club comes back to impact the way you had it setup and if that's accomplished you can strike the putt solidly and get it to roll repetitiously toward the target. Good luck with that.